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February 12, 2015
Title: Policy Perspective: The Endangered Species Act and Texas 
Topic: Endangered Species Act
Discussed by Kathleen White
with Texas Public Policy Foundation (www.TexasPolicy.com)
Part 1 of 3
Before a subdivision is built… Before a new building is constructed… Before a 
new bridge is created… Should the economic cost be considered? The EPA likes to 
regulate everything – everything, that is, except how much money their mandates 
will cost the taxpayers. 
Kathleen White is an expert with the Texas Public Policy Foundation. She has 
worked with the best of the best. When it comes to the Endangered Species Act 
(ESA) of 1973, Kathleen believes that the EPA has seen no restrictions. To the 
EPA, there is no difference between a gnat and bald eagle. Now, we’re all in 
favor of protecting the environment and animals, but there comes a point when we 
must say “enough is enough!” 
How does the EPA actually determine if a species is in danger? Listen in as 
Kathleen discusses some of the crazy decisions the EPA has made regarding the 
ESA because they rely on bad science information and other outdated material. In 
fact, a judge even ruled in favor of the EPA even though it was proven that they 
had lied! Kathleen White explains…
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Title: Part 2 of 3 - Policy Perspective: The Endangered Species Act and Texas 
Topic: Endangered Species Act
Discussed by Kathleen White
with Texas Public Policy Foundation (www.TexasPolicy.com)
The EPA is dead-set 
on stopping progress to all aspects of the human race – new houses, building, 
bridges, hospitals…The list goes on and on. All under the guise of 
protecting wildlife and exotic plants. They’ve done this time and time and time 
again, and will continue to do so until someone finally stops them! 
However, there was one event where the EPA really, really, really over-stepped 
its authority: The Bastrop County Fires in 2011. If you aren’t mad after 
listening to the first segment with Kathleen White about whooping cranes and 
flea-flicking-flea-flies, then you’ll be really mad after this one! Listen in as 
she discusses the reason clean-up and rescue efforts were hampered. It is really 
just ridiculous, folks.
“The problem with the Endangered Species Act is that it clearly puts animal 
species above human beings,” says Kathleen White. For example, the EPA and 
the Supreme Court are ignoring the tremendous costs placed on taxpayers when a 
tiny minnow-like fish population is slightly threatened. There are millions of 
these fish! Maybe not in one specific area, but there are still millions of them 
on the Earth! And it’s not just about little, tiny fishes in the sea. Kathleen 
explains how the EPA has pretty much lost its mind.
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Title: Part 3 of 3 - Policy Perspective: The Endangered Species Act and Texas 
Topic: Endangered Species Act
Discussed by Kathleen White
with Texas Public Policy Foundation (www.TexasPolicy.com)
One of Terry’s 
favorite sayings is: If “pro” is the opposite of “con”, does that mean 
“Congress” is the opposite of “progress”? Since 1973, the 
Endangered Species Act has not been altered or changed. Not once. The only thing 
Congress has done has thrown more and more money to the EPA so they can control 
more and more aspects of our lives. 
For six years, Kathleen White was the Chairman and Commissioner of the Texas 
Commission on Environmental Quality, which is second in size only to the EPA. In 
this final segment with Kathleen today, she gives her opinion on what Texas must 
do to continue the progress we’ve worked so diligently to achieve. Hint: It’s 
not through more regulations and mandates like the EPA! 
We all know that movies and TV shows have a huge impact low-information voters. 
Kathleen says PETA, the EPA, and other groups have used the media successfully 
for decades. Listen in as she explains why human beings are so much more 
important, especially when you consider the high unemployment rates in some of 
these areas that have been effected by the EPA’s harsh guidelines and 
regulations. 
You can learn more about this and other topics affecting our way of life [here]. 
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April 2, 2014
Title: Shoot it. Bury it. And Shut Up About It.
Topic: Endangered Species Act
Discussed by Marita Noon
with Energy Makes America Great
Though well 
intentioned at its start in 1973, the Endangered Species Act (ESA) has morphed 
into a tool to hinder or block economic activity from logging and farming to 
mining and oil-and-gas development—often to protect species that don’t truly 
need it.
For example, if you find oil or natural gas on your property, the value goes up. 
If you find an endangered species, your land becomes virtually worthless because 
the critter prevents productive use.
Today, Marita Noon discusses the spotted-owl, the sand dune lizard, the ‘lesser 
prairie chicken’, and man’s co-existence with these species. 
Log on to 
www.EnergyMakesAmericaGreat.org  for more.
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February 18, 2014
Title: Shoot it. Bury it. And Shut Up About It.
Topic: Endangered Species Act
Discussed by Marita Noon
with Energy Makes America Great
Though well intentioned at its start in 1973, the Endangered Species Act (ESA) 
has morphed into a tool to hinder or block economic activity from logging and 
farming to mining and oil-and-gas development—often to protect species that 
don’t truly need it.
For example, if you find oil or natural gas on your property, the value goes up. 
If you find an endangered species, your land becomes virtually worthless because 
the critter prevents productive use.
Today, Marita Noon discusses the spotted-owl, the sand dune lizard, the ‘lesser 
prairie chicken’, and man’s co-existence with these species. 
Log on to 
www.EnergyMakesAmericaGreat.org  for more.
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